We're extremely grateful to Sandra Newman for taking the time to talk with us about her wonderful 2019 novel THE HEAVENS. (It's so good! Buy it already! https://bookshop.org/books/the-heavens/9780802147974) After our conversation with Sandra, at about the fifty minute mark, we turn our attention to the NBA restart. We marvel at the remarkable success of the bubble to date and the high quality of play, and we preview nearly all of the playoff matchups. (Sorry, fans of Miami and Indiana, we forgot about that series.) Next time, we'll get into Heinrich von Kleist's early nineteenth century oddity MICHAEL KOHLHAAS with the brilliant Elisa Gabbert, whose newest collection of essays THE MEMORY OF UNREALITY is out now! This book is amazing. Literally stop whatever it is you're doing at this moment and buy it and read it! (https://bookshop.org/books/the-unreality-of-memory-and-other-essays-9781705248744/9780374538347) What are you waiting for?