Susan lectures in primate conservation at Oxford Brookes University. She is a co-director of the Borneo Nature Foundation and vice-chair of the IUCN Primate Specialist Group Section on Small Apes. Gibbons are the focus of a lot of Susan's research and work. She works to fight against the devastating impact trafficking and loss of habitat are having on the wildlife population. As well as this we discuss a whole host of conservation issues including the ethical questions surrounding zoos & palm oil. For more information visit- https://gibbons.asia/ & www.borneonaturefoundation.org Twitter- @IUCN_Gibbon @BorneoNature @DrSusanCheyne A Fascinate Productions podcast