Happy 2024 people! In our first episode of the year we hear from author Ali Millar about her debut novel Ava Anna Ada. Many of you will know Ali from her incredible memoir The Last Days, a courageous and unsparing account of her upbringing in and break from the Jehovah’s Witness Cult. It was an incredible read and is a huge recommend if you’ve yet to get to it Described by Ali as her 'strange little book,'  her much anticipated debut novel  braids together themes of climate chaos, social collapse, lust and the almost deific role of the screen in our lives. First written in those strange Covid days it is infused with that period’s sleepless fever. This is haunting, unfixed writing that stays with you long after you’ve put the book down.  In discussion Ali talks about the influence of Ted Hughes, using the real to create the unreal, working with memory and the corners where ghosts hide in a story.  Ava Anna Ada is published on the 18.01 by the good people at White Rabbit. It is available for pre-order all over the place now and please, please support your local independent book seller if you can.  Huge thanks as ever go to Ian Hawgood and Huw Marc Bennett for the use of their beautiful music and if you like what you hear please subscribe and leave us a review.