The world has evolved, insisting that technology and humanity work hand in hand.   In this episode of Fifth Dimensional Leadership, I interview Chris Cochran and Ronald Eddings, Co-Founders of Hacker Valley Media, a multimedia production company that explores cybersecurity through person-centered storytelling. In our conversation, Chris and Ron talk about bridging technology and people through accessible information on cybersecurity and leadership.   Chris is Co-Founder and CEO of Hacker Valley Media. He is equal parts creator and technologist. He has extensive experience building and running strong cybersecurity programs and content, as well as a wealth of experience and passion for security operations, engineering, and leadership. His ultimate passion is finding and amplifying human stories to inspire and enlighten our community. Chris was in the Marines and led cybersecurity teams at Booz Allen, United Technologies, and Netflix, and has been a Visiting Fellow at the National Security Institute.   Ron is the Co-Founder and Executive Producer at Hacker Valley Media. His mission is to inspire, empower and uplift the technology community through knowledge and human stories so that others have the opportunity to reach their potential.  He has a lifelong commitment to learning and teaching. He has held security and cybersecurity roles at McAfee and Palo Alto Networks.    Things you will also learn in this episode: How Marvel superheroes inspire these media technologists What “Threat Intelligence” means and how cybersecurity relates to media. The diversity of experience and expertise required for the cybersecurity field. What it means to be a “Solution Excavator” and “Master Manifester.” How Chris and Ron manifested a world-class athlete as a guest on their podcast and became friends. Their take on machine learning, artificial intelligence, AR/VR, Web 3.0 and cryptocurrency    Quotes:   Chris Cochran   “If you want something to come to fruition, you have to want it and put in a plan in place to do it.” “Sometimes, the more audacious the goal, the more imposter syndrome you feel, that’s a great opportunity for you to grow as a person.”   “If you put great things out to the Universe, the Universe will answer back.”   “Things are changing all the time, and there's always someone looking to take advantage of this change. But knowing that there are people that have dedicated their lives to protecting us should bring us peace.”   Ronald Eddings   “You can trust your mind, but you should verify.”   “Having friendships and networks can go a long way and result in things you never thought would happen at all.”   “Positive sum” is about conspiring to work with each other directly or indirectly… and work together.