Lesley talks with the wonderful, Vanessa Bayer, about the joy of knitting and her zero-pressure transcendental meditation practice. She talks about her dream hobby (surfing!) and espouses the benefits of her full-coverage swimming sweat suit. To talk to Lesley about your hobby, leave a voicemail at 844-370-VOID. You can also email the podcast at [email protected]. Theme music by Michael Cassidy. Editing by Kat Hong. Filling The Void is an Earios production. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy