In Episode 73 of First Fuel, Energy Efficiency Council CEO Luke Menzel is again joined by Francesca Muskovic, Director – National Policy at the Property Council of Australia, and Carlos Flores, Director of the National Australian Built Environment Rating System (NABERS). In this, the second part of a bumper double episode of First Fuel, Luke, Frankie, and Carlos go deep on electrification of buildings, which emerged as a major theme of their recent delegation to Germany. They discuss the ways in which the war in Ukraine is driving a major policy push to get off Russian gas, the incentives, skills and supply chains that will help Germany meet its electrification targets, and what lessons Australia can learn as we seek to decarbonise our own building stock. Video updates: This is the third in a series of episodes recorded during Luke’s recent European trip. To see the video updates produced during the trip, visit https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiEzC40kXieRYiEmpjjitdq7IMYkNyiBN Key topics: ● The Russian-Ukraine conflict, and Europe’s accelerating path to electrification ● Overcoming the challenges of electrifying existing commercial buildings ● The critical role of trade skills and business models in enabling electrification ● Global manufacturing capacity and supply chains for heat pumps Connect with our guests: Connect with Frankie: https://twitter.com/FrankieMuskovic Connect with Carlos: https://twitter.com/carlosfloreslen Connect with us: Find Luke at https://twitter.com/lukemenzel Find out more about the Energy Efficiency Council at www.eec.org.au Follow us on Twitter at https://twitter.com/EECouncil Email us at [email protected] To find out how you can listen to an upcoming episode of First Fuel live, visit www.eec.org.au/podcasts