Episode 2522 - On this Friday's show Vinnie Tortorich speaks with farmers Natalie Kovarik and Tara Vander Dussen where they discuss agriculture, climate, food sovereignty, raw milk, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2024/08/food-sovereignty-episode-2522 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS YOU CAN WATCH ALL THE PODCAST EPISODES ON YOUTUBE - Managing the Landscape The political landscape has been on fire lately, but knowing that there is a steadiness between the extremes is comforting. (2:00) Natalie is a cattle rancher and Tara is a dairy farmer and have been involved with agriculture for decades. They are co-hosts of a podcast called “Discover Ag” discussing agriculture and where your food comes from. (9:00) They discuss some of the challenges they encounter, such as animal activists. (11:00) The fringe sides can drum up a lot of attention. When it comes to food, science and emotions are put on the same level. (25:00) They discuss the conversation over the decades about fat, cholesterol, and the health of meat. (29:00) Food Sovereignty and the Climate The discussion about carbon footprints is also a challenge. (34:00) Carbon emissions for farming are nuanced; there are many factors to consider. It’s not just “carbon in, carbon out.” Ruminants keep soil healthy enough to grow food. The truth is nature is harsh, but society has been molded by “the Disney effect.” (38:00) They discuss the climate over 100 years ago. (43:30) Lab-grown or cultured meat is gives a false sense of being better for the environment, yet it takes all kinds of energy to make it. (45:00) There is not enough data available to tell what the implications are, let alone make claims of “benefits.” Vinnie shares his inspiration for “Beyond Impossible.” Countries having food sovereignty is important. A “food patent” raises the question of who gets to own the source of food for others. (49:00) A good example of what happens with this is how Big Pharma controls meds and their cost and availability. They share an enthusiasm for rodeo and bull riding. (58:00) Educated Food Choice Raw milk vs. Homogenized milk. (58:00) They are for food choice. Pasteurization was crucial to food in history at one time. There's a new NSNG® Foods promo code you can use: enter VINNIE and get 15% off! (25:00) The promo code ONLY works on the NSNG® Foods website, NOT on Amazon. Vinnie's new documentary "Dirty Keto" is out soon! Go to to get it at !   [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE (2022) The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie’s third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes):  Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (only in the USA for now)!  Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!