It appears that beyond capturing the state, the Guptas have successfully managed to capture the collective attention of the whole country. In a time when the Guptas seem to be all we ever talk about, Andrew and Rori speak to Luke Jordan (CEO, Grassroot) who believes that in obsessing about the Guptas as we do, we are removing our eyes off some other very important issues that also deserve as much, if not more attention than the Guptas.