Meg and guest Lydia Lobb discuss just how pervasive and insidious animal exploitation paradigms are in our education systems at all levels. From kinder milk programs to rodeo fundraisers and free fishing rods, animal exploitation seems to be baked into our education system in Australia. We talk about many examples and the difficulties of navigating the system when raising compassionate kids.  Have things gotten better over time? What was it like for our generation? Our parents generation? And will it become better for future generations?  Music: Human Race by Baby Blue https://babybluemelbourne.bandcamp.com/track/human-race September by Earth, Wind and Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk What about the Children by Gary Clark Jr and Stevie Wonder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7B5wg93jd8  Image courtesy of Note Thanum on Unsplash https://unsplash.com/photos/group-of-people-wearing-white-and-orange-backpacks-walking-on-gray-concrete-pavement-during-daytime-CYlPykF-qAM