Matt Friend and Governor Wes Moore on what it’s like to follow Oprah on the speech stage, handling the Baltimore Key Bridge collapse, communication with Vice President Kamala Harris during the crisis, the rationale behind Wes Moore’s decision to pardon 175,000 people with certain plant related convictions, the age gap between him and many top leaders in government, the need for fresh, common-sense leadership, defining patriotism, Moore’s military service and how it shapes his understanding of true patriotism, and which governors are best at a party!  Follow Matt on IG: @themattfriend Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/FriendInHighPlaces Watch Friends in High Places on YouTube: https://bit.ly/FriendinHighPlacesYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices