Frieze Masters presents this conversation with Andra Ursuţa & Jeremy Deller in partnership with David Zwirner Gallery (@davidzwirner). Their conversation explores Ursuţa’s new exhibition at David Zwirner as well as her inclination towards using clichés and the ‘lowest’ regarded forms of artistry, her embrace of spirituality and the influence of the ancient on her work.  "I look at a lot of ancient sculpture. I think, at least in my opinion, that if you try to make something that answers too perfectly to the sort of visual demands of today, your work will look very dated, very quickly." – Andra Ursuţa  Andra Ursuţa was born in 1979 in Salonta, Romania, moved to New York in 1999 and has gained recognition for her inventive sculptural work that mines the darker undercurrents of contemporary society. Jeremy Deller (@jeremydeller) is an English conceptual, video and installation artist.  About the Frieze Masters Podcast  Exploring themes of identity, originality, geopolitics and Blackness through a historical lens, the new Frieze Masters Podcast is now available. Bringing together some of today’s most celebrated artists, art historians and curators, the podcast launches with the Talks programme from the 2022 edition of Frieze Masters – one of the world’s leading art fairs – and offers compelling insight into the influence of historical art on contemporary perspectives and creativity.     www.frieze.com  @friezeofficial