In this week’s podcast, Paul sits down in person with Shannen Michaela, a well-known contortionist on social media who just happened to move to Costa Rica and is expecting her first child. Shannen shares her story from being a vegan in her teen years with acne and birth control struggles to now eating an animal-based diet to optimize fertility and overall health. They chat about the ethics of eating meat, why they think the government would be pushing an anti-meat agenda, and why they believe animal foods are optimal for all. 00:09:37 Podcast begins 00:11:37 Why do women fear meat? 00:17:42 Why would the government push the anti-meat agenda? 00:24:52 Shannen’s journey from veganism to animal-based 00:39:37 The importance of connecting with our food 00:45:37 Shannen’s current diet 00:48:07 Shannen’s experience with pregnancy 00:50:22 Foot archery 01:01:07 Shannen’s birth control story 01:11:07 What’s next for Shannen? Social media and parenting 01:20:47 Paul’s vegan journey Sponsors: Heart & Soil: www.heartandsoil.co Carnivore MD Merch: www.kaleisbullshit.shop Make a donation to the Animal Based Nutritional Research Foundation: abnrf.org  Animal-based 30 Challenge: https://heartandsoil.co/animalbased30/ Marek Health: marekhealth.com/fundamentalhealth, use code PAUL for 10% off your first lab order Shirttail Creek Farm: shirttailcreekfarm.com, use code CarnivoreMD20 for $20 off your first order Joovv Light Therapy: http://joovv.com/paul, use code PAUL for an exclusive discount