In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Brian Kime, Associate Director of Threat Intelligence and Hunt Lead at Carrier, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions. They discuss the biggest cyber risks to manufacturing companies and how to keep OT environments safe — and why the biggest threat to production is a ransomware attack that impacts the IT systems. They also discuss the need for implementing zero trust and segmenting identities, what key skills are needed to be successful in cyber risk management, security innovations in the military, and why the future of cyber risk management will see organizations prioritizing their own internal data. Topics discussed: The evolution of Brian's career as an "expert generalist," including work both on the enterprise defender side and the vendor side, doing research at Forrester, and coming back to the enterprise side at Carrier — as well as serving in the US Army Reserve. What measures are most successful in protecting manufacturing OT systems against cyber threat, including the necessity of tabletop exercises, implementing zero trust, and the need for segmentation of identities. Why ransomware is still the biggest threat to manufacturing, and how attackers can halt production and OT systems by ransoming IT systems. The biggest threats to the global supply chain today, and how tensions in one part of the world — Ukraine and South Asia specifically — can disrupt supply chain timing and costs globally. The military's approach to cyber risk management, the challenge of working with smaller tech companies as contractors, and why innovation today is soldier-centered.  What key skills are required for cyber risk management success, including the need for critical thinking around context and audience, and why writing skills are necessary for communicating business value and risk. What cyber risk management will look like in five years, and why organizations will find it more effective to prioritize their own internal data over outside sources.