Australia's disaster response procedures are under review. The new reality requires us to deal with multiple natural disasters simultaneously — to tackle polycrises. While some suggest a more centralised approach, others are calling for something very different — a greater focus on strengthening local community resilience and prioritising mitigation over clean-up. The climate clock is ticking, so which direction promises the greatest return? Guests Dr Paul Barnes – Senior Research Fellow and emergency and risk management expert, Griffith University Rebecca McNaught – Research Fellow, University Centre for Rural Health, Lismore, NSW Mark Duckworth – Senior Research Fellow, Centre for Resilient and Inclusive Societies, Deakin University Professor Mehmet Ulubasoglu – Director of the Centre for Energy, the Environment and Natural Disasters, Deakin University Listen to Future Tense — Designing buildings for disasters