Frustrated at being unable to make professional headway, Mohandas Gandhi hopes to obtain a job – a prime ministership or a judgeship. For that, he would need powerful political backing.  But, Mohan is about to discover that life changes on unexpected moments, moments that seem not that important at the time but which determine the course of your entire life. He is about to take the first step in a journey that would lead to him becoming the ‘father of the nation’. Mohan’s brother hears from a Memon firm in Porbandar that has built a vast business in South Africa. They need a barrister for a year in a case in which £40,000 is at stake. Mohan’s fee is £105 with all expenses and a first-class return voyage paid for. To tell us the story of Mohandas Gandhi in South Africa, we have again Tushar Gandhi, great grandson of the Mahatma, an author and peace activist. He is in conversation with Ashraf Engineer, host of the All Indians Matter podcast.