At GovEx, a lot of our work is focused on cities. But counties play a crucial role in using data to improve public outcomes as well. From health to elections and justice programming, counties provide critical services to people across the US. To explore these often overlooked stakeholders in government data work, we are diving deep through a conversation with two represenatives from NACo (https://www.naco.org/), the National Assocation of Counties. In this episode, we talked with Natalie Ortiz (https://www.naco.org/people/natalie-ortiz) and Kathy Rowings (https://www.naco.org/people/kathy-rowings) about the work of NACo connecting counties together, their work on Data-Driven Justice (https://www.naco.org/resources/signature-projects/data-driven-justice), and how they use data themselves to advance better public outcomes across all sorts of counties from urban to rural and everywhere in between. If you are interested in learning more about how counties use data, get in touch with us at [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) and we are happy to discuss. Like Data? Listen and Get in Touch * Look for us on iTunes or Google as GovEx Data Points * Find up-to-date episodes on our website (https://govex.jhu.edu/resource-type/podcast/) Get in touch with us and let us know what you want to hear, suggest potential episodes, and give us feedback on how the podcast is going. You can contact us on Twitter at Gov_Ex (https://twitter.com/gov_ex) or reach out via our website at govex.jhu.edu/contact (http://govex.jhu.edu/contact/).