In this episode, Jacob speaks with Mr. Mark Nicholls! Mark is the CEO of Information Professionals Group and has over 30 years of experience! In the episode they discuss the business case for information security, and how cybersecurity professionals can effectively communicate with the C-suite and other business leaders! Here are some highlights from the episode: The Importance of information security in businessThe Importance of securing dataHow cyber professionals should engage with business leadersRoleplaying exercise - bad/good examples of a cyber pro trying to convince a CEOHow active listening can help you make a differenceFollow Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdnicholls/ Information Professionals Group Website: https://www.informpros.com.au/ ----------- Governance, Risk, and Compliance Academy (GRC) Academy is a training and research platform! Online GRC Training: https://grcacademy.io/courses/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=s1-e25&utm_campaign=courses Need a FedRAMP authorized Password Manager? Start a free 14-day trial of Keeper: https://grcacademy.io/ref/keeper/b2b-trial/ See the CMMC controls that Keeper meets: https://grcacademy.io/ref/keeper/cmmc-controls-sheet/