Havtam, an Ethiopian Jewish Israeli, and Amanda discuss Havtam’s experiences and perspectives on the conflict between Israel and Palestine. She addresses offensive comments made by pro-Palestinians about Ethiopian Jews and highlights the importance of understanding the diversity within Israel. Havtam emphasizes the need to protect lives and communities and challenges misconceptions about the IDF's actions. She also discusses the impact of terror attacks on daily life and calls for Hamas to surrender to bring an end to the conflict. Havtam shares her pride in being an Israeli and addresses claims of genocide and sterilization, emphasizing the importance of focusing on building peace and combating racism. The conversation covers the treatment of African refugees in Israel, disappointment with Black Lives Matter, and the focus on Hamas in relation to the Ethiopian people. Takeaways Misconceptions and offensive comments about Ethiopian Jews by pro-Palestinians are deeply hurtful and offensive. The IDF plays a crucial role in protecting lives and communities in Israel, and its actions are not motivated by a desire for conquest or genocide. Living with the constant threat of terror attacks is a reality for Israelis, and the IDF provides a sense of security. Addressing racism and human rights issues in Israel is an ongoing process, but it is important to focus on building a better future rather than dwelling on past injustices. Israel provides a safe haven for refugees from countries like Eritrea and Sudan, offering them opportunities for work and a better life. African refugees in Israel have faced mistreatment and discrimination, including being denied basic necessities like water and food. The speaker expresses disappointment with Black Lives Matter for not addressing the racism faced by Afro-Palestinian people. The Ethiopian people are asking for help with the issue of Hamas, rather than focusing solely on racism. The conversation highlights the need for greater awareness and action on these issues. Follow Havtam: Tik Tok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@efi_lefii?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/efi_lefi/  Follow me on social media: Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/a__pet⁠  Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/a__pet/⁠  Podcast Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/greatworkpod/⁠  Tik Tok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@a__pet⁠  All of my links: ⁠sprouter.app/greatworkpod⁠