Content warning: this episode contains mentions of death This week on Growing up with gal-dem, Nie and Natty chat to musician Rachel Chinouriri about the vast influences (spanning alternative music to horror films) that have affected her music now and helped her pursue music as the youngest of 5 children. Rachel brings us a different kind of extract in the form of a whatsapp screenshot to her grandma in 2016. She shares how losing her grandma and losing that supportive hand encouraged her to keep going and encouraged her to be happy in music and life.  You can listen to Rachel’s stunning second EP, Four° In Winter here.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.