This week we’re joined by Sudanese-Australian writer, broadcaster and award-winning social advocate Yassmin Abdel Magied. Nie and Natty listen in as Yassmin reads through an op-ed she wrote for Brisbane Times in 2012 titled How racist are we? . Looking back, Yassmin reflects what it’s like to grapple with the expectation of expertise on racism as a person of colour, and how her own plans and career aspirations changed in the face of these expectations.  Yassmin also talks to Natty and Nie about the ways that islamophobia and anti-blackness have intersected in her lived experience, and the shock of moving to London, experiencing majority black events and communities, and learning first hand about the plantain wars. It’s a beautiful, moving and often hilarious conversation that shows the beauty of growing up and allowing yourself the room to move and grow at any age.    See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.