This is one of the those podcasts where I know who it is that I'm talking to offstage, but Jennifer does not - until she realizes who it is.  It happens on camera, so no one can be in doubt about what it is we are doing. We have been doing this for eight years - weekly - where I invite someone to "get past the velvet rope" of the classroom of students that Luana Anders has amassed on the flipside, people who want to speak to those back on the planet, and she helps them to do so. Just the same way that Jennifer helps people on this side of the veil speak to their loved ones offstage, Luana helps people who've crossed over to communicate to us. In this case, my friend Carl Weathers came through. I mean Carl perhaps 20 years ago, both of us working with the ICT program out of USC, where people in the industry helped people in the defense department with different scenarios.  Carl and I sat next to each other on a plane ride and by the time we landed we were working on a screenplay together. (Yet to be made; "A Slice of the Devil's Pie.") That put me into his orbit which was working with someone who is incredibly generous of spirit.  I was startled to hear that he passed suddenly, I ran into him at the Director's Guild just a few months ago, and always considered we'd work together again some day. Well, today's the day.  Carl shows up in my home a couple of days ago, I heard him tease me about something - and decided to see if Luana might let him past her velvet rope to speak on our podcast. I'll let the podcast speak for itself.  I was finally able to use the captions generated by Adobe - and the result is best viewed on the YouTube channel MartiniZone. But for those in their cars, this is an unusual trip into the world of someone I know who is on the flipside, clearly alive, clearly aware of what he's observed. At some point, I revealed who Carl was by way of asking a series of questions to friends of his; #RandalKleiser, #SylversterStallone, #ArnoldSchwarzenegger, #AdamSandler, #JonFabreau, #PedroPascal, #RonGronkowski, #FanDeul, #SuperBowl2024.  He also talks about seeing old friends of his on the flipside, #MichaelJackson, #TinaTurner.  I asked him who he was surprised to see, and it was my old friend #CharlesGrodin who he shared laughs with. He has messages for his family, his friends, fans of #GreefKarga, #TheMandalorian" - he mentions the memes about his character WHEN JENNIFER HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, HAS NEVER SEEN THE SHOW, DOES NOT KNOW WHO GREEF KARGA IS. But he tells her about how he's amused by the memes of him from the show. (I put one into the video version of the podcast.)  For those visiting our podcast for the first time, Jennifer is a medium who works with law enforcement nationwide, she has been donating her time for this research weekly for 8 years (we have four books BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE 1, 2, 3 and TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE).  Jennifer is a well known intuitive medium who works out of Manhattan Beach, can be found at JenniferShaffer.com  I'm a best selling author (Kindle in their genre) of books about the afterlife (FLIPSIDE, TALKING TO BILL PAXTON and HACKING THE AFTERLIFE documentaries are on Amazon, along with ten other books) I am sorry to those who may be offended by talking to people offstage, but I've been doing it for 15 years on film, Carl was aware of it, and we talked about it when we weren't working on our screenplay that we pitched at a number of studios together. Maybe one day I'll turn it into a book - it's a fun story, had elements of his own life, and he would have been great in the lead role. But in the meantime, here I am posting a half hour interview that we did yesterday, a few days after his passing, and what he has to say is in line with all of the other research I've filmed. (The most recent book has 20 interviews with scientists, clergy, doctors accessing "Divine Councils in the Afterlife"). If there's an value in sharing this information it's to