In this episode, Ant is joined by Carli McConkey. Carli was just 21 years old when she attended a wellness festival in Sydney one Sunday afternoon. She met with a psychic, hoping to gain some clarity and direction. But that encounter ended up altering the course of her life for 13 years. Carli shares her story of losing her identity, freedom and family. She also opens up about the realisation that she needed to escape, and how she fought against mind control techniques in order to do so.  If you suspect you or someone you know may be involved in a cult, support is available at www.cifs.org.au If you think you need immediate assistance, call 000. If you would like to speak to someone for support, you may wish to contact one of the following services.  Lifeline – Call 13 11 14, or visit www.lifeline.org.au. 1800RESPECT – Call 1800 737 732, or visit www.1800respect.org.au. LINKS Find out more about Carli McConkey's book, The Cult Effect, here More information about Carli's work on cult education and recovery can be found on her website, carlimcconkey.com Follow Ant on Instagram, X, and Facebook Learn more about Ant on his website antmiddleton.com Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. The matters discussed in this episode are Carli McConkey’s personal opinions and experiences relating to the allegations of abuse detailed in her book The Cult Effect: A True Story of Mind Control in Australia 1996 (2027). CREDITSHost: Ant MiddletonEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna Henvest Managing Producer: Elle Beattie Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.