This episode is the audio from an on-camera interview between licensed psychotherapist Lisa Taylor-Austin and Dr. Ettensohn. The video of this interview can be viewed on Lisa's youTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@LisaTaylor-Austin   This audio recording is posted with Lisa's permission. This discussion covers numerous topics, from treating pathological narcissism, the diagnostic criteria for NPD, variation in narcissistic pathologies between siblings raised in the same family system, the use of defenses like splitting, and the ever-present stigma surrounding NPD.   Lisa runs the Taylor-Austin Group. Learn more at their website: https://thetayloraustingroup.com/