Shelley Herman is Ken’s guest. A great way to break into TV is to become a network Page (remember Kenneth from 30 ROCK?) Shelley was an NBC page back in its glory days and has written a terrific tell-all book about it and the stars she encountered. She’s also performed comedy with Andy Kaufman, hosted monster truck rallies on ESPN, been a game show exec, and hosted eight informercials. So lots to talk about!   More podcasts at WAVE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/artist/wave-podcast-network/1437831426 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.