John Elmore took his first sip of alcohol at four-years-old, and that sip started a journey of alcoholism that nearly killed him. Now he runs the biggest Christ-centered recovery group in the world. In this episode of the Honest Conversations podcast, he sits down to discuss the vertical nature of forgiveness and the horizontal nature of healing. John Elmore's book is called Freedom Starts Today: Overcoming Struggles and Addiction One Day at a Time. Find John and learn more about his step program at https://www.freedomstartstoday.org/ If you enjoy the Honest Conversations podcast would you please subscribe, rate, review, and share? Join the conversation! Find Rebecca and Liz Rodriguez here: Twitter: @RebeccaACarrell ; @lizannrod ; @HeartStrongF Facebook: @HeartStrongFaith Instagram: @rebeccacarrell ; @lizannrodriguez ; @lizrodonthepod ; @heartstrongfaith