The guest in this episode is Dave Messenger. He’s the Executive Chairman of LianLian, a Chinese-born FinTech company he’s helping to go global. Dave discusses starting his career as an apprentice chef, before training to become an engineer and later venturing into leadership positions at Virgin Mobile and American Express. Shaun asks Dave about mentorship and its influence on his career, as well as his observations around diversity. We also land upon the topic of failure, which is something Dave looks for when recruiting as a sign the individual has put themselves out there and ultimately had to bounce back.  Listening to this episode, you will: • Discover more about the Executive Chairman role, the challenges which are faced and how the position will innovate and adapt in the coming years. • Hear Dave’s three things to consider when creating a long-term sustainable company. • Learn why focus groups is a great way to stay up to date on technology and trends within business, as well as for soundboarding ideas and situations.