HODD overseas adventure time! We headed to Wellington to chat with Kiwi comedy and music legend, and one half of Flight of the Conchords, Bret McKenzie and he gave us a masterclass on playing with our kids. Bret makes up silly stuff for a day job (he even won an Oscar for it!) and as a dad he’s focused his gift for absurdity and daftness into creating pro level games for his kids, and he gives us some of his best hits. They’re awesome! Seriously, you’re gonna want to write them down.  Bret also has some great insights about why putting in the time is so powerful, why connecting with community and investing in your neighbourhood is so good for your kids and also how to keep a lookout for that special thing that fires your kid up and ignites that spark of interest. He also reveals that despite his best efforts he might never get a billy cart built for his younger son. When it comes to DIY construction, Bret makes a great songwriter. However, one great thing Bret has constructed is a life that ensures he is there for his family, and his passion for simply turning up and providing consistency for his kids is clear… even if this means they just think he’s a half decent chauffeur.  We can’t thank Bret enough for having a chat, we got seriously inspired on the creative play front, and man did we laugh a lot. Bret’s album, Songs without Jokes is here on Apple or here on Spotify - check it out! And obviously, if you’ve never seen Flight of the Conchords, please drop everything now and do so - it truly is one of the all time greats. You can contact us howotherdadsdad.com — On our little NZ adventure we needed cars to move our families and gear around, and of course we used our friends at HERTZ.  Getting the keys was a breeze, the cars were brand new and in great condition, and drop off back at the airport was super simple and lightening fast.  So next time you travel, do the same and use HERTZ.  And if that travel is in Australia, go to hertz.com.au/hodd where you can grab a 25% discount off the base rate. T&Cs and exclusions apply - see website for details. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.