Episodes
While union rates have dropped in the last 40 years, 88% of Gen Zers approve of unions, and a perfect storm is brewing, leading to a likely increase in union organizing at a rate unseen in decades in 2024.  Michael VanDervort chats with Paul Glover. He's an expert on unions and predicts a surge of union activity this year. Former Federal Trial Lawyer Paul Glover is the No B.S. Post-Pandemic Leadership Expert with over 40 years of experience who understands the unique demands of post-pandemic...
Published 01/15/24
Welcome to 2024!  Jon Hyman and Michael VanDervort are back with the very first show of the year on DriveThruHR. Today, they deliver another episode of Labor Relatedly that helps bring HR practitioners up to speed on the latest developments in labor and employee relations, including: Starbucks update: Lots are happening here, including possible new negotiations in 2024, NLRB altercations, and an effort to install union supporters on the Starbucks Board of Directors. SpaceX files a lawsuit...
Published 01/05/24
Rhea Moss, Global Head of Workforce and Customer Insights at iCIMS, is a self-professed data aficionado. In this episode of DrivethruHR, she chatted with host Robin Schooling about iCIMS' recent Monthly Workforce Report as we dove into what's measured (with some extra fun talking about time-to-fill) and a few other of Rhea's "favorite things." You can connect with Rhea on LinkedIn and read (and dowload|) iCIMS' vast array of research and insights here.     
Published 12/06/23
In this episode, Robin and Michael chat with guest Chris Rollins - keynote speaker, community builder, and creator of Ripple Effect Leadership. Join us to learn about creating inclusive and high-trust environments, and the importance of continuous practice and self-improvement.  You can connect with Chris on LinkedIn or via the Ripple Effect Leadership site. 
Published 11/30/23
Michael and Robin chat with Andrew Shatte’, Ph.D., Chief Knowledge Officer and co-founder of Boston-based meQuilibrium, on the impact of “doom loops” on employee and team productivity and how to take positive action to prevent and break cycles of doom. Here is a link to his Tedx talk.  
Published 11/06/23
Michael and Robin are joined today by Carolyn Clark.  Carolyn is the VP of Employee Experience Strategy and Transformation at Simpplr, where she elevates the employee experience by driving innovation and revitalizing how employee communication is delivered. Prior to Simpplr, she led internal and HR communication at companies like Yahoo, Pandora, and GoDaddy. We discuss elevating the employee experience, the impact of AI on EX and Internal Communications, and trying to turn Blowing Rock,...
Published 11/03/23
Join Jon Hyman and Michael VanDervort for episode 16 of Labor Relatedly in which they discuss The Creature Comforts Brewery election outcome, Cemex bargaining orders, the new joint employer rules, and how the recent outcome of the UAW/Big 3 negotiations will impact labor relations trends heading into 2024. 
Published 10/30/23
Co-hosts Robin Schooling as they chat with Ken Oehler, Senior Partner, Head of People Science, for RADICL.    Ken Oehler,, has a deep understanding of employee experience, and we discuss the role of leadership in creating a great work experience. On the show, we discuss: .RADICL and what they doThe STATE OF THE WORK EXPERIENCE REPORTThe main findings of the reportWhat a RADICL Work Experience is    
Published 10/05/23
Join Jon Hyman and Michael VanDervort for a discussion about how the NLRB is in the process of changing virtually all the rules governing labor law in the United States. We talk about the impact of the hugely impactful Cemex decision on the union election process, how they are changing employee protections related to protected activity in the workplace, and the likely banning of non-compete agreements in the near future.   
Published 09/11/23
Labor Relatedly Episode 14: Going to Orange Alert at the NLRB.  Happy Orange Thursday!    🔥 🔥 🔥 The American labor scene is poised for a seismic shift. All eyes are on the Cemex case at the NLRB, which could be the most radical change in labor law since the 1960’s.  As General Counsel Jennifer Abruzzo’s 2022 brief indicated, unions would get a huge lift. Brace yourself if you’re at the helm of labor relations in a U.S. company. The buzz is that the Board will drop its verdict on...
Published 08/24/23
Welcome to another exciting episode of DriveThruHR! Today, we're diving deep into the world of community building with Suzanne Lucas and  the dynamic team of moderators from the Evil HR Lady Facebook group. Ever wondered what it takes to run a thriving Facebook community? Or how being a moderator can boost your professional credentials? We've got you covered. With a whopping 30,000 members and counting, the EHRL FB group stands as a testament to the power of online communities. So, whether...
Published 08/10/23
On this episode of Drive thru HR, Michael and Robin had the chance to chat with Ben Mones, CEO and Founder at Fama for a discussion about workplace misconduct, quality of hire, technology (yes – including “AI”) and the elevation of HR practitioners/professionals. Join us for this wide-ranging conversation about how companies (and HR professionals!) are solving problems with technology. You can connect with Ben on LinkedIn and follow Fama on the socials. .  
Published 08/08/23
Michael chats with Krystal Speed of Your HR Strategist about her company and about her decision to relocate from Washington, DC, to Tulsa, Oklahoma, as a part of the Tulsa Remote Program, which provides incentives and support to digital nomads and remote workers who are willing to try living in Tulsa for a year. We discuss her reasons for moving, her experience with Tulsa Remote, and her future plans on this episode of #DTHR.   
Published 07/22/23
We had a wide-ranging discussion when Robin had the chance to sit down with executive HR leader par-excellence Tim Collins. In this wide-ranging and fascinating conversation, we discuss Tim’s career roles with P&G and IBM, contemplate the past, present and future of HR, and even do a little grooving with the O’Jays! p.s. pay particular attention to Tim’s listing of the personal attributes HR professionals should cultivate! You can connect with Tim on LinkedIn and Twitter.
Published 07/21/23
Jon Hyman makes his long-awaited return to DriveThruHR when he joins Michael for another episode of Labor Relatedly, their first since May.   In this episode, they discuss  Jon's family vacation to Portugal, and his plans to possibly buy a home there, (not LR, but fun, and Mike can't wait to visit); The announced shutdown at Anchor Brewing and how it impacts the union employees there; a long discussion about the current Hollywood strikes and AI, as well as the great tree-trimming incident...
Published 07/20/23
Michael chats with Justin Harlan, Managing Director of Tulsa Remote. Tulsa Remote is a unique recruitment initiative aimed at attracting talented individuals to Tulsa. The program brings remote workers and digital nomads to the community by providing $10,000 in grants and numerous community-building opportunities. Each grant is distributed over the course of a year to eligible remote workers or entrepreneurs living outside of Oklahoma. On the episode, we discuss the program, how it works,...
Published 07/14/23
Michael and Robin chat with Liz Wilke, Principal Economist, at Gusto to discuss what the most successful remote and hybrid-friendly SMBs are doing. Gusto’s team of economists published a report featuring data-backed insights from nearly 1,000 SMBs highlighting what the most successful remote and hybrid-friendly SMBs are doing, accompanied by recommendations for how businesses can improve their remote and hybrid cultures.   Among the many findings, Gusto’s team of economists found:  SMBs...
Published 07/13/23
Join Michael and Robin as they speak with McKinsey Senior Partner Patrick Simon, for a discussion about how business leaders can tackle the biggest challenges they are facing today. Patrick recently coauthored McKinsey’s latest global report on The State of Organizations 2023, which outlines the greatest challenges that impact an organization’s ability to attract and retain talent, work efficiently, and achieve growth and other performance goals. We will discuss the age of the CHRO, the...
Published 07/10/23
Michael and Robin sat down with Don Robertson, EVP/CHRO of Northwestern Mutual to discuss HR strategy and his approach, especially over the last several years. As the HR leader of this insurer and investment firm that consistently ranks among the country’s best places to work, Don expertly blends the human element of HR with sound-business decisions, analytics, and data to drive the talent strategy. Join us for a captivating conversation about topics ranging from HR’s role (and evolution) to...
Published 07/05/23
Join us to chat with Will Rose, Chief Technology Officer at TalentSelect  AI, about AI and some developing regulations affecting its use. TalentSelect  AI is using artificial intelligence to streamline and improve traditional psychometric testing, helping talent acquisition professionals and recruiters to objectively understand and assess a candidate’s psychology, personality traits, and core skills. We discuss: The different ways AI is used in hiring and recruitment todayInsights into AI...
Published 06/26/23
DrivethruHR is pleased to announce the airing of a special 4-episode series - Introduction to HR Tech for HR Professionals. In episode 3 - Rollout and Adoption: Strategies for Successful Implementation  - Robin talks with Caleb Fullhart, SVP, Technology Consulting and Erin Perry, SVP, Solution Design and Implementation with Cielo about best practices for introducing new technology to an organization or community, including change management, training, user adoption, and stakeholder...
Published 06/08/23
Join Michael VanDervort and guest co-host Phil Wilson of The Labor Relations Institute as we discuss some weird Teamster organizing shenanigans involving Amazon in California, the impact of the Glacier Northwest decision by SCOTUS, Jennifer Abruzzo's latest overreach, and the nuances of negotiating with new unions at a large employer like Starbucks.  Click here for some bonus useful tips to help HR practitioners build out a strategy for gathering evidence on a picket line.     
Published 06/05/23
Listen to Michael Vandervort and Jon Hyman discuss labor relations issues of the day. On this episode, we discuss the continued expansion of union access onto employer private property being pushed by the NLRB via some recent Amazon decisions, the recent call by the President of Workers United for Starbucks to negotiate a national labor agreement (ain't gonna happen!), and how a probably well-intentioned DEI effort went awry at Uber. #DTHR #DEI #LaborRelations #EmpLaw 
Published 05/25/23
DrivethruHR is pleased to announce the airing of a special 4-episode series - “Introduction to HR Tech for HR Professionals.” In episode 2 - From Concept to Reality: Designing and Developing Technology Solutions - Robin talks with Caleb Fullhart, SVP, Technology Consulting with Cielo about what HR professionals should understand about the process of creating and refining technology solutions, including ideation, prototyping, testing, and iteration. Whether you’re building your tech stack,...
Published 05/20/23
DrivethruHR is pleased to announce the airing of a special 4-episode series - “Introduction to HR Tech for HR Professionals.” In episode 1 - Building Blocks: The Foundations of an HR Tech Stack – Robin talks with Caleb Fullhart, SVP, Technology Consulting with Cielo about the basic components and infrastructure necessary to build a successful HR tech stack including considerations for items such as hardware, software, networking, and security. Whether you’re building your tech stack,...
Published 05/11/23