On this very special, first-ever HR & Payroll 2.0 “swap-cast” episode, Pete and Julie welcome payroll pros Brian Escobar and Walter William Duncan III, hosts of the ‘It's About Payroll’ podcast, to the show! After a round of introductions, the group discusses the state of modern payroll and the excitement and challenges associated with AI and payroll innovation. They opine on the growing importance of emotional intelligence, leadership, and influence for the modern payroll leader before wrapping up with a fun round of ‘this or that?’. Connect with Its About Payroll: https://www.itsaboutpayroll.io/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-about-payroll/id1671326790 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7fjmoYhSf5UKukB1XrYN2Z?si=570130e58e6d413c  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/itsaboutpayroll/ Brian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/escobarbrian/ Walter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walter-william-duncan-iii-477051187/ Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0  Twitter: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR