Audrey Simmons, co-lead of the Association of Black Humanists joins James & AJ this week to discuss her personal journey and the unique challenges for the Black community in the UK when it comes to embracing humanism. AJ provides an update on the proposed ban of conversion therapy in the UK. Despite the government's commitment to a ban, delays, and recent news of the draft bill's cancellation have sparked a wave of demonstrations. Together, we stand in allyship with the campaign to ban conversion therapy and discuss how you, our listeners, can join the movement. Plus,  Prof. Christopher Cameron, author of Black Freethinkers,  A History of African American Secularism joins the podcast to discuss his personal journey and the figures who inspired his seminal book, as well as the future of freethought in America. Here more from Chris Cameron, live in Conversation with S.I. Martin on 22 September 2023 in Central London. Finally, our mailbag question this week: Just what does it mean to be spiritual but not religious? Refences: Association of Black Humanists Humanists International - Amsterdam Declaration 2022 Humanists UK - Banning Conversion Therapy Campaign Book recommendations from Prof. Cameron; Sikivu Hutchinson Michael Lackey, African American Atheists and Political LiberationAnthony Pinn, By These Hands & The End of God-Talk  Send your questions or guest requests to: [email protected] Follow Humanism Now 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube Follow Central London Humanists 🔗Centrallondonhumanists.org.uk 🤝 Meetup 👍 Facebook 🐦 X (Twitter) 📺 YouTube Central London Humanists are an official partner group of Humanists UK and an associate member of Humanists International