Randy and Andrew McKean continue their discussion about efforts in Washington and Colorado to marginalize, even eliminate, hunting as a tool for state agencies. In the second episode of this series, they are joined by physician and former Washington Wildlife Commissioner Kim Thorburn. In her terms as a Commissioner, she supported hunting and hunters despite being a non-hunter. She explains how the political process was used/abused to take over the Washington Wildlife agency and is now being directed with an anti-hunting bias. Political favors, abuse of appointment power, and lack of interest in other opinions are the tools of this effort. This podcast series covers some of the events that are putting hunting in danger - and how anti-hunters are gaining footholds in some influential locations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices