Tom and Dorion go over our Plato conversation, covering everything from the nature of reality and knowledge to Plato’s problem with popular entertainment (although we know he would’ve loved Rocky, Braveheart, Gladiator, and maybe especially Erin Brockovich). Topics discussed: • Plato’s “think it all out” schtick and what’s fun got to do with it. (Hint: not much) • Happiness, according to Plato. (Hint: it’s not about pleasure) • Why what could be a tagline for spicy potato chips is a good synopsis for Plato’s definition of happiness • Plato’s idea of a “perfect” society • How Socrates spurred Plato on to define human beings (the guy lived to define things!) • Why Plato was a control freak Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Thoughts? Dead guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected] or visit www.iheardeadpeople.com. If you’d like your own urn-sized coffee mug featuring your favorite dead person, you can champion your luminary at this link.