Marianne van der Steen is one of the top female ice and mixed climbers, and competition dry-toolers in the world today. She’s climbed WI7, M10 trad, and recently joined the D15 club. While she’s won many European Cups in ice climbing and reached the World Cup finals a number of times, she hasn’t yet been able to break through to the podium. Will that change this season? In this episode, we talk with Marianne about what it looks like to go all in for your goal, what ”Der Weg ist das Ziel” and “DTS” mean, and how we need to have a hard talk about ethics in outdoor dry-tooling.