In this episode, Jeff and Jim discuss various Identity and Access Management (IAM) topics with their guest, Chris Power, Senior Manager of IAM at Sallie Mae. They tackle the evolution and challenges of non-human identities, the potential sunsetting of Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) in favor of policy-based methods, and the organizational design of IAM teams and the importance of governance and cybersecurity measures. The episode rounds off with a light discussion about Marvel movie news, focusing on Robert Downey Jr.'s return to the Marvel universe as Dr. Doom. 00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 2:07 Exploring Digital Identity Trends 5:01 Conference Highlights and Discount Codes 8:35 Introducing the Guest: Chris Power 12:11 Deep Dive into Non-Human Identities 29:20 The Future of RBAC in IAM 30:42 Challenges in HR Systems and RBAC 32:21 The Complexity of Implementing RBAC 33:23 Exploring Alternatives to RBAC 34:13 The Role of Attributes in Access Control 37:35 Policy-Based Access Control (PBAC) 42:59 Organizational Design in IAM 52:34 Future of IAM with AI and Big Data 55:55 Marvel Universe Discussion 63:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Connect with Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameschristopherpower/ Chris’ LinkedIn Post: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/trying-something-new-chris-power-ysmdc/ Attending Identity Week in America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at: America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/ Authenticate Conference - Use code IDAC15 for 15% off: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2024-conference/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/ Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/ Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com and watch at https://www.youtube.com/@idacpodcast