Today, we delve into the complex relationship between renewable energy development and biodiversity conservation. Gillian speaks with Mike Webb from the Gwent Wildlife Trust, exploring the nuanced challenges that solar power station developments pose to biodiversity-rich habitats in South Wales and beyond. While recognising the crucial shift towards green energy, our discussion uncovers the need for strategic, sustainable planning to ensure that this transition supports both progress and nature preservation. Importantly, we also learn the importance of soldiering on to win the war even if you lose the battle. Key Takeaways: Journey to Environmental Advocacy: Mike Webb shares insights into his early life, university years, and the journey that led him to advocate for nature and politics. The Gwent Levels - A Case Study: Examination of the Gwent Levels, highlighting the area's ecological significance and the threats posed by proposed solar farm developments. The Environmental Cost of Progress: Discussion on the delicate balance between renewable energy profitability and environmental sustainability. The critical need for independent research to fully understand the potential impacts of renewable energy infrastructure on biodiversity. Public Involvement and Policy Challenges: The importance of public involvement in environmental protection efforts. A look into contentious political issues, international law, and the role of legislation in safeguarding natural habitats. Navigating Developer Hurdles and Community Perspectives: The big NIMBY question! Strategies for reconciling community concerns with environmental and development goals. The Future of Renewable Energy and Biodiversity: Mike’s vision for a sustainable future for the Gwent Levels and similar ecosystems. Practical advice for planners and developers on incorporating biodiversity conservation into renewable energy projects. Reflections on Leadership and Environmental Stewardship: Mike's humorous musings on being the 'King of Wales' and ruling the world, tying back to the serious theme of responsible leadership in environmental conservation. Follow the show: You can follow ‘If I Ruled the World’ on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your preferred platform of choice. Follow Gillian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gillians_voice/ Website: https://www.gillianburkevoice.com/ Mentions & Resources Gwent Wildlife Trust The Wildlife Trusts What would you do if you ruled the world? If you have any insights or feedback on today’s episode or you have an idea for how the world could be a better place, drop me an email on [email protected] A final thank you to our wonderful sponsors Triodos Bank UK for making this podcast happen, and to The Wildlife Trusts for their continued support. Produced by Soundquake Edited by Jake-Lee Savage