How do race, class, and gender shape confidence and who can embody it? Host Cathy Hannabach interviews curator and professor Jillian Hernandez about the politics of confidence, how women and girls of color are challenging artistic social hierarchies, collective creative support during COVID-19, and why building a world where girls, women, femmes, and mothers of color can rest and resist is how Jillian imagines otherwise. Transcript and show notes: https://ideasonfire.net/122-jillian-hernandez/