Have you ever felt like you're constantly pushing yourself to change, but it never seems to stick? Maybe you've been told that you'll finally see the results you want if you try harder. But what if that's not the case? In Episode 167, we interview Neal and Carly Samudre about what happens when you start with joy. They will challenge the idea that pushing through blood, sweat, and tears is the only way to achieve lasting change in your life. Drawing on insights from the Bible and the latest research in positive psychology, they'll explore the power of joy as a driving force for transformation. They believe that focusing on joy can create positive change in your life without resorting to shame, guilt, or fear. Instead, you'll discover how to cultivate a sense of fun and playfulness that makes the process of change actually enjoyable! Throughout the podcast, Neal and Carly will explore topics such as the difference between happiness and joy, why shame, guilt, and fear aren't good motivators for change, how therapy and theology can go together, how to start from joy when you are suffering, and how to start from joy when it comes to your body image. Join us as we explore a new way of thinking about change—one that starts from joy. Get ready to leave shame, guilt, and fear behind and discover the fulfilling life you were always meant to live. For the full show notes, including questions and journal prompts about this episode, go too IMbetween.org/episode167 Connect with us on: Facebook | Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices