In Episode 186, Daniel and Christina Im engage in a profound conversation with Chuck De Groat, a licensed therapist and author of "Healing What's Within." The discussion centers on themes of loneliness, healing, and the integration of spiritual and psychological insights. Chuck shares his journey in writing his book and emphasizes the importance of reconnecting with oneself. The episode explores practical tools for self-examination and highlights the significance of understanding and addressing deeper longings for connection and fulfillment. In This Episode, You'll Hear About: Exploration of themes of loneliness and disconnection. Discussion on the healing process and its significance. Integration of spiritual and psychological insights. The importance of self-awareness and introspection. The role of community in the healing journey. Examination of internal conflicts and desires. Reflection on the biblical concept of "coming home to oneself." Practical tools for self-examination based on biblical questions. Encouragement to engage in contemplative practices and connect with God. Meet Chuck DeGroat: Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a licensed therapist, spiritual director, author, retreat leader speaker, and faculty member with the Soul Care Institute.  As a therapist, he specializes in navigating issues of abuse and trauma, pastoral (and leadership) health, and doubt and darknights on the faith journey. He trains clergy in handling issues of abuse and trauma, conducts pastor and planter assessments, and facilitates church consultations and investigations of abuse.  Before transitioning to training and forming pastors, Chuck served as a pastor in Orlando and San Francisco. He and his wife, Sara, have been married for 30 years and have two adult daughters. For the full show notes, including discussion prompts for you as a couple, go to IMbetween.org/episode186 Connect with us on: Facebook | Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices