In this episode of Impact Driven Leader, Tyler Dickerhoof welcomes Chad Veach, the lead pastor at Zoe Church and author of books like, Help! I Work with People and Worried about Everything Because I Pray about Nothing, to explore one of the most challenging battles leaders face: the constant tug between pride and humility.  Chad shares personal stories about learning to "go low" and building a true legacy, offering insights on ego, self-awareness, and the power of embracing humility as a strength rather than a weakness. Through his own journey, Chad reveals how humility has allowed him to find purpose beyond self-promotion and lead others with empathy and authenticity.  Tune in as Chad and Tyler unpack why the real rewards of leadership—trust, impact, and legacy—come only when we learn to step out of the spotlight. Connect with Chad: https://www.instagram.com/chadveach/ https://chadveach.org/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqlfQgIBW12SiMzK22Zy-AQ Impact Driven Leader: Impact Driven Leader Podcast https://www.youtube.com/@impactdrivenleader  https://www.instagram.com/impactdrivenleader/  Subscribe to the newsletter: https://impactdrivenleader.beehiiv.com/ Tyler is on: https://www.tylerdickerhoof.com/  https://www.facebook.com/tyler.dickerhoof.3  https://www.instagram.com/tyler_dickerhoof/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-dickerhoof-1960351b  What Was Discussed: 00:00 Intro 02:01 Leading with Less Ego 06:08 Balancing Pride and Humility 08:01 Recognizing Pride in Offense and Disagreements 09:46 Humility and Empathy 13:52 Insecurity and the Armor of Pride 15:53 Choosing Humility Over Pride in Leadership 19:31 Why Leaders Should Drop the “Tough” Act 23:59 True Leaders Seek Out Community and Accountability 27:55 How Humility Keeps Us Grounded and Present 32:24 Lead with Heart and Humility 35:06 The Humility Cycle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices