On this episode I am joined by Jurg Van Vliet, CEO & Co-Founder of Aknostic. Jurg shares an insight to the sector from the perspective of cloud infrastructure.  Jurg shares how he started his career in software development and  why he made the decision to start Aknostic. Jurg provides an insight to how cloud software interacts with the infrastructure and why it is important that we understand the importance of the software in the larger ecosystem. Jurg also outlines why it is important that Europe develops their own solution to the public cloud, and how Kubernetes can aid with this development. Finally we discuss some of the key challenges facing the sector today, from talent to sustainability.