The Vatican declared Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò guilty of schism and excommunicated on July 4. For anyone who has followed the archbishop’s public statements over the past few years, the decision was anything but a surprise. Still, no one could have predicted that this Vatican diplomat with more than 40 years of service would fall so precipitously from favor. In this special deep dive episode of “Inside the Vatican,” host Colleen Dulle interviews journalists, a canon lawyer, and a historian to trace Viganò’s transformation from top Vatican official to being excommunicated for schism, and what that transformation means for the rest of the Catholic Church. Special guests: Robert Moynihan, editor-in-chief of Inside the Vatican magazine and a friend of Viganò Gerard O’Connell, Vatican correspondent for America Dawn Eden Goldstein, who holds a licentiate in canon law from the Catholic University of America Shaun Blanchard, lecturer in theology at the University of Notre Dame Australia Support ITV and become a subscriber to America Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices