On this episode, Stephen and Keith discuss the hidden costs that are involved with running a business, John Clares on site guide and the importance of opening up discussions in order to challenge the status quo. Also on The Special Guest Interview Segment, the lads are joined by Jayson Fairbairn aka Mr London Plumber to talk about his journey, his passions and his contribution to guiding the next generation of plumbers through the system. To learn more about Jayson, head over to his Instagram page @ mr.london_plumber_ and if you would like to keep up to date with the podcast, check us out @insight_tsbpodcast and take a look at our Bio link. If you’re interested in a career within the electrical industry then contact Keith on Instagram @energiseelectricalservices and if you would like a career within the facilities maintenance industry head over to Mitie.ie/careers --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/insightthestrippedbackpod/message