In this episode (Part 1 of 2), we're with dancer, historian, educator, promoter, instigator, designer, and business owner JULIA LOVING. We share Norma Miller stories, the historical Civil Rights legacy of Julia's family, and how both have shaped the design of Julia's incredible swing dance events. 0:00 Miss Norma enters the room… 6:00 Norma's memories 8:35 Empowerment and tough love 11:00 Norma asks you to come over and talk to her 14:30 The stories we don't remember 19:00 Continuums of Lindy 23:30 It's multi-dimensional and all tied together 28:30 The legacy of the Lovings 37:30 It's in my family 39:00 There's a continuum of Lindy Hop in Harlem 41:00 Julia's vision for promoting 43:30 There's nothing like having your own Black agency -------------------- Welcome to Integrated Rhythm! Two Swing Dancing besties (Chisomo Selemani & Bobby White) navigate race and the Black Experience in the world of Jazz Dance and other Afro-centric social dancing. Our goal is comfortable conversations about uncomfortable things. Our intro and ad music this week is by Barron Ryan, Laurel Ryan's brother. Check out firstofitskind.net, and www.barronryan.com.  Our podcast music is by Laurel Ryan & Michelle Stokes, our "We're back! song" was an improvisation by Steffanie AK Schilling, and the background drumming is by Bobby White Find us at your local podcast ap, or at: https://anchor.fm/integratedrhythm  Please donate to help keep us in business: Patreon: patreoncom/integratedrhythm PayPal: [email protected] Venmo: @bobbyswungover (Where applicable, lease put the note "IR" in it, so that we know it's for the podcast.)