What is permissible and not permissible under new conversion practice laws in New South Wales - with Neil Foster, Matt Aroney and Michael Stead Sydney Anglican Bishop Michael Stead, who chairs Freedom for Faith, describes the new laws  as the least worst that he has seen in Australia. Associate Professor of Law at Newcastle University and author of the Law and Religion blog Neil Foster says the law is unnecessary, but better than has been implemented in other parts of Australia. Professor Foster supports moves to ban oppressive or violent practices that are designed to change someone’s sexual attraction or impair gender identity. However, Professor Foster says the laws (which have a criminal and civil component)  can go beyond those bad things to areas where a minister is explaining the teaching of the Bible and wanting to help people to live in accordance with the bible. Acting Minister of Watsons Bay Matt Aroney says he doesn’t think the new laws will impact his pastoral practice.  Matt wants to turn down the anxiety levels.  He encourages to choose thoughtfully to respond to the people in front of us with the love and compassion that Jesus has. Matt applies the principles of his new book ‘Renovated: How God makes us Christlike’  to caring well for those Christians experiencing same sex attraction or gender incongruence.  Support the Show. -- Become a regular financial supporter of The Pastor's Heart via Patreon.