Welcome back to 'It's All Kicking Off!' In this episode, Ian and Chris delve into the thrilling rivalry between Manchester City and Arsenal... exploring the tactical fouls and 'dark arts' employed by teams, the controversies surrounding refereeing decisions, and the evolution of Arsenal's playing style.  The conversation shifts to West Ham's struggles post-David Moyes, the signs of crisis at Newcastle, and the quiet success of Fulham so far. All this, plus Ian and Chris debate the physics of water temperature and answer the age old question... can you simmer before boiling ? Presenters: Ian Ladyman and Chris Sutton Producer: Henry Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices