The Fallout with The Joe Budden Podcast & Starting New Rory and Mal #newrorynmal #joebudden #joebuddenpodcast In this revealing interview, Mal, a former co-host of the Joe Budden Podcast, opens up about the tensions and business disputes that led to his and Rory's departure from the show, despite their significant contributions to its success. Mal expresses disappointment and a sense of betrayal by his close friend Joe Budden, whom he believes let ego and unwillingness to share financial success fairly lead to their fallout. Despite having a "percentage agreement" contract, Mal and Rory felt underpaid and denied access to accounting details. "It's ego. But even in the midst of that, we weren't tripping because we had this contract in place...whatever money comes in, this is the percentage that I get. This is the percentage that he gets." Attempts to resolve issues through meetings and discussions about bringing in an accountant failed. The Final Moments Mal recounts the final moments: "For me, it was done there...Rory begged me to have a meeting...he agreed. He said, yeah, we're gonna get the accountant...Let's all go to our corners, and we're gonna get everything right, and then we'll come back and...reconvene." However, Joe brought in new co-hosts shortly after, which Mal saw as a "slap in the face." 0:00 - Introduction: Ownership, Branding, and Business in Podcasting 0:09 - Rory's Contract Breach and Firing 0:55 - Misconceptions and Legal Issues 1:09 - Maul's Character and Business Practices 1:34 - Address to Maul and Internal Issues 2:01 - Public Perception and Internal Struggles 2:31 - Contractual Realizations 3:04 - Salary Disputes and Transparency 3:22 - Network Began During Their Tenure 3:38 - Shoutout to Loon and Sponsorship 4:03 - Prize Picks Sponsorship 4:26 - Introduction of Mal as Guest 5:01 - New Rory and mal Tour and Success 5:46 - Business Side of Podcast and Branding 5:52 - Departure from the Joe Budden Podcast: Mal’s Side of the Story 7:24 - Creative Collaboration with Rory 8:09 - Unique Approach to Podcast Skits 9:16 -The Joe Budden Podcast Break Up 10:05 - Maul's Will to Help and Support 11:05 - Truth and Character Attacks 11:11 - Principles Over Money: Integrity in Relationships 12:26 - Financial Disputes and Lessons Learned 12:52 - Learning to Fish and Independence 13:27 - Joe Budden's Misplaced Leverage 16:10 - Clarifying the Past: Departure Based on Principles 16:16 - "Parks Know's" Mal says Parks is in to deep to disagree with Joe Budden 20:10 - The Business of Podcasting: Control and Branding 21:21 - What was Mal Contribution to The Joe Budden Podcast 21:56 - Joe Budden's Emotional Reactions To Employee Meeting 24:04 - The Rise and Fall of the Joe Budden Podcast 27:14 - Joe Budden's Misplaced Leverage 29:11 - No Ill Feelings, Just Truth: Financial Discrepancies 31:12 - Joe Budden's Discomfort with Money Splits he agreed to 31:30 - The Patreon Announcement Incident: Unplanned Moves 37:14 - Joe Budden Spotify Rants, Rewinding the Tapes: Understanding Past Episodes 40:51 - Network and Unpaid Work: Joe’s YouTube Channel 45:51 - Joe Budden Refused To Pay For Video For Podcast Payment: Monetized Content Issues 49:05 - Why Not Start Their Own Podcast While at JBP ?: Focus on Due Payments 52:40 - Why Mal Sided With Rory Instead On Joe Budden 55:17 - Ish Knows! -Lessons Learned: Business and Friendship Insights 59:53 - Future and Growth of the New Show: Mal and Rory’s Success 1:04:34 - The Nature of Friendship: Money’s Impact 1:07:20 - Joe Budden 's Current Show and Cast Members: Acknowledging History 1:11:03 - Importance of Real Friendship: Supporting Each Other 1:14:12 - Kanye West’s Recent Actions: Broader Implications See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.