What does CSO stand for at your organization? Is it short for Chief Security Officer... or Chief Scapegoat Officer? In this episode, Ivanti CSO Daniel Spicer talks about how he never thought he'd be a CSO, and the unique pressures that security executives face from their own internal leadership teams and external regulations or (worse) insurance companies. Listen in as Daniel and Ashley dig into: What counts as a "breach" -- legally and ethically -- and the conflicting pressures to either report or not.How hackers try to bluff their way into a breach...... and how "breach coach" insurance lawyers may or may not try to pressure teams out of reporting incidents they should.Where to find the best internal allies to help you stand up to undue pressures and maintain your ethical high grounds.The #1 thing security leaders should do during their interview process to make sure they're signing on with the right organizationHow -- if you do get fired due to a breach -- it's not the end of your career as a security professional. Next episode going live June 29, 2023!New episodes publish around the second and fourth Thursdays each month. For all show notes, resources and references, head to Ivanti.com/SecurityInsights Join the conversation online on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/company/Ivanti)