Subscribe on Substack ➡️ https://jeremypryor.substack.com Follow Jeremy on Instagram and Twitter. Jeremy is joined by Steve Manuel to discuss how to predict when a Christian leader will fall - an unfortunate reality, but important conversation that needs to happen as believers. They compare the system of disciple-making vs. the system of celebrity-making, and provide a number of specific tactics that anyone with a growing sphere of influence can utilize to ensure ego and celebrity do not overtake their humble service for God's glory. On this episode, we talk about: 2:00 Celebrity Christian culture 3:19 Jeremy's article: How To Predict If A Christian Leader Will Fall 7:37 Steven's response as the "celebrity apologist" in the discussion 13:30 Small vs. celebrity-focused systems 19:15: John the Baptist-style leadership, elders, and youthful good intentions 25:03 How to protect yourself from self-worship if you're in a celebrity position, even if it's just locally in your family or church 34:47 A system is perfectly designed to give you the results you're getting 40:27 Influence, social media, temptation, and Jesus' 2 answers to increasing fame 48:01 Death to the fear of man Resources Mentioned Family Inc - Start your family business Steve Manuel Twitter Abraham's Wallet --- Welcome to Jeremy Pryor's Podcast, or what I like to call, "Jeremy Pryor Unfiltered." We are excited to bring you seasons of content all the way from Tolkien to Theology, from Business to Family. If you like to contemplate deep philosophical ideas across a wide range of topics, you've come to the right place. Make sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube so you don't miss out on future episodes!