This week Ben Bruno makes his 4th appearance on the Industrial Strength Show - and as per usual - he and Joe have a lot to talk about! Highlights from their conversation include: Ben's first 4 mentors in the fitness industry; Training around back pain (and dealing with people online giving stupid advice); How both Joe and Ben trained at 13 years old; Thoughts on training to failure; Tracking your (training) volume; How/Why Ben "cherry picks" research; Favorite training splits for "longevity"; The question EVERY personal trainer should start EVERY training session with; What Ben has learned from arguing online with well-known fitness influencers...And Lots More! *For a full list of Show Notes  visit www.IndustrialStrengthShow.com. IMPORTANT LINKS DeFranco-brand supplements [*Use code: MuscleUpAugust] Magic Spoon Treats [*Use code: JOED] Team Forever Strong Ben Bruno (@benbrunotraining) Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)