In this interview, John has an in-depth discussion with renowned historian and writer Victor Davis Hanson. They discuss a wide range of topics including immigration, the current state of tertiary education, the condition of the Biden administration, and the 2024 presidential election. John and Victor talk about changing demographics in politics, and how, against all odds, younger generations are tending towards independent, rather than institutionalised, views. Victor also addresses the conflicts in Israel and Ukraine, critiquing the concept of proportionality in war, and examining the extent to which western countries should be involved. Lastly, they explore emerging concerns about immigration, now that Americans are identifying it as one of the most important issues for the coming election.